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	<title>Comments on: Defeat Prop 4!</title>
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		<title>By: gesiku</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54270</link>
		<dc:creator>gesiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am afraid that this prop isn&#039;t getting enough attention, will go under the radar, and even people who are pro-choice might not give it a good enough thought to realize that while it is a great idea to have parents notified, it shouldn&#039;t be made into a law for those that do not have supportive families.

Here is a link to a NO on prop 4 ad that I not only think is really well done, and have seen a handful of times aired on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhN_fgwLz3E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am afraid that this prop isn&#8217;t getting enough attention, will go under the radar, and even people who are pro-choice might not give it a good enough thought to realize that while it is a great idea to have parents notified, it shouldn&#8217;t be made into a law for those that do not have supportive families.</p>
<p>Here is a link to a NO on prop 4 ad that I not only think is really well done, and have seen a handful of times aired on TV:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhN_fgwLz3E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhN_fgwLz3E</a></p>
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		<title>By: David "Hussein" Markland</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54263</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Hussein" Markland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should children need to get permission from a parent before obtaining less serious services such as plastic surgery, getting a tattoo or piercing, or, say, appearing on film or signing any sort of contract?
Police need parental permission or a lawyer present before interrogating a minor.
I&#039;m voting no on this, but do wonder if perhaps there should be some sort of third party involved - like a social worker - who should be informed before a doctor is allowed to proceed with such a procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should children need to get permission from a parent before obtaining less serious services such as plastic surgery, getting a tattoo or piercing, or, say, appearing on film or signing any sort of contract?<br />
Police need parental permission or a lawyer present before interrogating a minor.<br />
I&#8217;m voting no on this, but do wonder if perhaps there should be some sort of third party involved &#8211; like a social worker &#8211; who should be informed before a doctor is allowed to proceed with such a procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: Annika Barranti</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54259</link>
		<dc:creator>Annika Barranti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put so much of myself into Prop 85 emotionally (I was pregnant, on purpose, which made me way more weepy and also way more pro-choice) that I admit this time I am just hoping it goes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put so much of myself into Prop 85 emotionally (I was pregnant, on purpose, which made me way more weepy and also way more pro-choice) that I admit this time I am just hoping it goes away.</p>
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		<title>By: AArtVark</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54258</link>
		<dc:creator>AArtVark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only place I have seen an anti Prop4 spot has been during the Daily Show a couple of times.

While 4 will most certainly cause death because it will create a black market for clandestine abortions - 8 is a much easier position to morally defend with less grey areas to argue about. Maybe I&#039;m just cynical about people&#039;s inability to equally fight for more than one thing at the same time with their advanced monkey brains focused on both.

If both props don&#039;t go down in flames next week, it&#039;ll be yet another sad commentary on just how &quot;liberal&quot; California is (or isn&#039;t).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only place I have seen an anti Prop4 spot has been during the Daily Show a couple of times.</p>
<p>While 4 will most certainly cause death because it will create a black market for clandestine abortions &#8211; 8 is a much easier position to morally defend with less grey areas to argue about. Maybe I&#8217;m just cynical about people&#8217;s inability to equally fight for more than one thing at the same time with their advanced monkey brains focused on both.</p>
<p>If both props don&#8217;t go down in flames next week, it&#8217;ll be yet another sad commentary on just how &quot;liberal&quot; California is (or isn&#8217;t).</p>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54256</link>
		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this one is flying under the radar.  The only commercial I&#039;ve seen on either side is a Yes on 4 commercial.

I can&#039;t say for sure, but I think that a lot of people that would be more vocal and active in working against this are focusing on defeating Prop. 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this one is flying under the radar.  The only commercial I&#8217;ve seen on either side is a Yes on 4 commercial.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say for sure, but I think that a lot of people that would be more vocal and active in working against this are focusing on defeating Prop. 8.</p>
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		<title>By: frazgo</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/10/29/defeat-prop-4/#comment-54254</link>
		<dc:creator>frazgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first glance I have to admit I thought, wtf if it were my daughter I&#039;d want to know.  Then I thought for a second and I cannot back this measure.

As a parent its emotional, but I honestly believe my kid would tell me if she wound up pregnant (which won&#039;t happen as she gets it that there is no such thing as an accidental pregnancy).  Parents and kids who have a decent relationship this isn&#039;t a problem.  The kids where their father did it, they were raped, in an abusive home or relationship doesn&#039;t need the additional problems.  

Nice post, but everyone is to pre-occupied with the white house and 8 this time around.  Someone needs to get the message out that this could cause more problems than it will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first glance I have to admit I thought, wtf if it were my daughter I&#8217;d want to know.  Then I thought for a second and I cannot back this measure.</p>
<p>As a parent its emotional, but I honestly believe my kid would tell me if she wound up pregnant (which won&#8217;t happen as she gets it that there is no such thing as an accidental pregnancy).  Parents and kids who have a decent relationship this isn&#8217;t a problem.  The kids where their father did it, they were raped, in an abusive home or relationship doesn&#8217;t need the additional problems.  </p>
<p>Nice post, but everyone is to pre-occupied with the white house and 8 this time around.  Someone needs to get the message out that this could cause more problems than it will help.</p>
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