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		<title>By: BHPD cyclist intimidation situation &#124; Los Angeles Metblogs</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50377</link>
		<dc:creator>BHPD cyclist intimidation situation &#124; Los Angeles Metblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] casually mentioned this situation earlier right after it happened and many folks in the comments responded by pointing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50040</link>
		<dc:creator>WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m buying a Hummer with the money I got from my OLD GOLD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m buying a Hummer with the money I got from my OLD GOLD!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Thompson</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50013</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>List #3:

1) Mihai
2) jericho1ne
3) Mihai
4) jericho1ne
5) Mihai
6) jericho1ne

Suggested list titles: &quot;People who are the same person&quot;, or &quot;People who are slower than Alex on all days!&quot;

You know I will add to this particular conversation . . . in private.  

Mikey - see you Saturday.

Final thought:

Is Sean Bonner ready to graduate to Cub Camp?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>List #3:</p>
<p>1) Mihai<br />
2) jericho1ne<br />
3) Mihai<br />
4) jericho1ne<br />
5) Mihai<br />
6) jericho1ne</p>
<p>Suggested list titles: &quot;People who are the same person&quot;, or &quot;People who are slower than Alex on all days!&quot;</p>
<p>You know I will add to this particular conversation . . . in private.  </p>
<p>Mikey &#8211; see you Saturday.</p>
<p>Final thought:</p>
<p>Is Sean Bonner ready to graduate to Cub Camp?</p>
<p>=== END OF THREAD ===</p>
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		<title>By: mikeywally</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50011</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeywally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alex, im faster than you.  either one of you.

@sean bonner, do you have a chumby?  can i borrow it?

LABDAN is gonna blow your minds!

freedom from oppression, freedom to potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alex, im faster than you.  either one of you.</p>
<p>@sean bonner, do you have a chumby?  can i borrow it?</p>
<p>LABDAN is gonna blow your minds!</p>
<p>freedom from oppression, freedom to potential.</p>
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		<title>By: jericho1ne</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50010</link>
		<dc:creator>jericho1ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a lot of white spray paint cans that can be bought w/ $45.  Or for double that amount, maybe a thousand flyers advertising Midnight Riders.  I&#039;ll be blunt about this one: old people/families/kids = River Ride, young people = Midnight Ridazz.  Who&#039;s more like to make a fuss and create change?  The young rebellious people of course!  They&#039;re the ones that will soon graduate, find a job, and then make the eternally important decision of how to get around town. 

What&#039;s the administrative overhead for do-it-yourselfers like Semiotics of the Ride or 4SBB?  Probably zero.  I like to see EXACTLY where my money is going.  What&#039;s better than dumping money into a non-profit?  Making it happen your own damn self.  Whatever &quot;it&quot; may be.

Oil has peaked and we still have &quot;cars on sale&quot; ads on TV.  We&#039;re still talking about &quot;planning&quot; for bikes.  That sounds like institutional support for cycling is in its infancy to me.

The one good thing about my generation is that we expect instant gratification.  So that&#039;s why these cool sounding 10 or 20 year plans don&#039;t really satisfy us.  

Alex, stop wasting space with your enumerations and add something to the conversation instead.  As far as the ratings above go, I could care less about insulting my intelligence, but the Speed ratings are way off.  And stop revealing people&#039;s identities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a lot of white spray paint cans that can be bought w/ $45.  Or for double that amount, maybe a thousand flyers advertising Midnight Riders.  I&#8217;ll be blunt about this one: old people/families/kids = River Ride, young people = Midnight Ridazz.  Who&#8217;s more like to make a fuss and create change?  The young rebellious people of course!  They&#8217;re the ones that will soon graduate, find a job, and then make the eternally important decision of how to get around town. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the administrative overhead for do-it-yourselfers like Semiotics of the Ride or 4SBB?  Probably zero.  I like to see EXACTLY where my money is going.  What&#8217;s better than dumping money into a non-profit?  Making it happen your own damn self.  Whatever &quot;it&quot; may be.</p>
<p>Oil has peaked and we still have &quot;cars on sale&quot; ads on TV.  We&#8217;re still talking about &quot;planning&quot; for bikes.  That sounds like institutional support for cycling is in its infancy to me.</p>
<p>The one good thing about my generation is that we expect instant gratification.  So that&#8217;s why these cool sounding 10 or 20 year plans don&#8217;t really satisfy us.  </p>
<p>Alex, stop wasting space with your enumerations and add something to the conversation instead.  As far as the ratings above go, I could care less about insulting my intelligence, but the Speed ratings are way off.  And stop revealing people&#8217;s identities.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Bonner</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50009</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Bonner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In light of Alex&#039;s comment I&#039;d just like to chime in and say there&#039;s no way I&#039;m faster or smarter than any of the folks listed and I love them all to death, even the ones I&#039;ve only recently met if only because every time I see them they are somewhere out there on a bike doing what they believe in.

As evidence of this I submit these facts: I owe my current bike obsession 100% to Will Campbell and without him my old Kona mountain bike would probably still be sitting under some tarp rotting away. Every single week I either get dropped or come in firmly in dead last on the Wolfpack Hustle. I have no idea how to spell consiously. Or Consciously I guess. 2nd try. Not bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of Alex&#8217;s comment I&#8217;d just like to chime in and say there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m faster or smarter than any of the folks listed and I love them all to death, even the ones I&#8217;ve only recently met if only because every time I see them they are somewhere out there on a bike doing what they believe in.</p>
<p>As evidence of this I submit these facts: I owe my current bike obsession 100% to Will Campbell and without him my old Kona mountain bike would probably still be sitting under some tarp rotting away. Every single week I either get dropped or come in firmly in dead last on the Wolfpack Hustle. I have no idea how to spell consiously. Or Consciously I guess. 2nd try. Not bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Thompson</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-50008</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s great about this post, and subsequent comments, is that it has no less than Alex Thompson, Alex Amerri (prendrefeu), Mihai Peteu, Mikey Wally, Sean Bonner, and Will Campbell participating.  These guys can all ride your legs off, and they all know each other.  In all cases they either love or hate one another!

So, in honor of the fact that Mr. Amerri is wrong (everyone knows about Expo Bike Path right of way issues) - here are speed and intelligence ratings for the participants I know in this thread:

Speed:
1) Alex Thompson
2) Mikey Wally
3) Mihai Peteu
4) Sean Bonner
5) Will Campbell
6) Alex Amerri

Intelligence:
1) Alex Thompson
2) Sean Bonner
3) Mihai Peteu
4) Mikey Wally
5) Will Campbell
6) Alex Amerri

I would like to preemptively deny that the intelligence rating is determined purely by considering how recently you have publicly agreed with Alex Thompson.  Also, these lists are not intended as an insult to Mr. Amerri, even though he is wrong.

Everybody take your vitamins!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s great about this post, and subsequent comments, is that it has no less than Alex Thompson, Alex Amerri (prendrefeu), Mihai Peteu, Mikey Wally, Sean Bonner, and Will Campbell participating.  These guys can all ride your legs off, and they all know each other.  In all cases they either love or hate one another!</p>
<p>So, in honor of the fact that Mr. Amerri is wrong (everyone knows about Expo Bike Path right of way issues) &#8211; here are speed and intelligence ratings for the participants I know in this thread:</p>
<p>Speed:<br />
1) Alex Thompson<br />
2) Mikey Wally<br />
3) Mihai Peteu<br />
4) Sean Bonner<br />
5) Will Campbell<br />
6) Alex Amerri</p>
<p>Intelligence:<br />
1) Alex Thompson<br />
2) Sean Bonner<br />
3) Mihai Peteu<br />
4) Mikey Wally<br />
5) Will Campbell<br />
6) Alex Amerri</p>
<p>I would like to preemptively deny that the intelligence rating is determined purely by considering how recently you have publicly agreed with Alex Thompson.  Also, these lists are not intended as an insult to Mr. Amerri, even though he is wrong.</p>
<p>Everybody take your vitamins!</p>
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		<title>By: WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-49997</link>
		<dc:creator>WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you cheapskate haters need to go cork the intersection of STFU &amp; Now. It&#039;s like crying about giving blood to the Red Cross because all you get is a fucking box of juice, some cookies and a sticker that says &quot;I Gave Blood.&quot; Fucking Red Cross ripoff scamsters!

What&#039;s to justify? The river ride isn&#039;t some novelty ride on the freeway/Let&#039;s-go-to-Scoops-and-lay-down-elitefixie-skids-on-Helio ride. It&#039;s the LACBC&#039;s lead fundraising event -- and a highly organized one at that. Support it and you&#039;re helping enable one of the lead nonprofit cycling orgs in our county in their cause to promote and encourage cycling. Or don&#039;t. Either way just try to get in that overtorqued headsets of yours that it ain&#039;t some spur of the moment trek that they just pulled out of their saddlebags and stuck a pricetag on. GAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you cheapskate haters need to go cork the intersection of STFU &amp; Now. It&#8217;s like crying about giving blood to the Red Cross because all you get is a fucking box of juice, some cookies and a sticker that says &quot;I Gave Blood.&quot; Fucking Red Cross ripoff scamsters!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s to justify? The river ride isn&#8217;t some novelty ride on the freeway/Let&#8217;s-go-to-Scoops-and-lay-down-elitefixie-skids-on-Helio ride. It&#8217;s the LACBC&#8217;s lead fundraising event &#8212; and a highly organized one at that. Support it and you&#8217;re helping enable one of the lead nonprofit cycling orgs in our county in their cause to promote and encourage cycling. Or don&#8217;t. Either way just try to get in that overtorqued headsets of yours that it ain&#8217;t some spur of the moment trek that they just pulled out of their saddlebags and stuck a pricetag on. GAH!</p>
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		<title>By: jericho1ne</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-49986</link>
		<dc:creator>jericho1ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to pay $45 to $60 for each triathlon I did, and that was half off the normal rate because I was collegiate.  It&#039;s really hard to justify paying money nowadays when I can ride on ridiculously awesome rides like Crank Mob, Ride Arc, CubCamp, Wolfpack Hustle, Bad Idea Ride or any other MR ride for that matter.  

Just as an update to the BHPD SUV intimidation bit, I talked to the officer&#039;s watch commander, and his attitude was that we should be happy that one of us didn&#039;t get cited.  Yes, of course I&#039;ll file an official complaint, but I doubt any action will be taken afterwards. Complaining about this bullshit on blogs is THE BEST option we have right now, it&#039;s the first thing anyone should do after being wronged by police.  Get the story out there, get people&#039;s contact info, and hopefully get a class action lawsuit going at some point in the future.  That&#039;s what put the LAPD in their place, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to pay $45 to $60 for each triathlon I did, and that was half off the normal rate because I was collegiate.  It&#8217;s really hard to justify paying money nowadays when I can ride on ridiculously awesome rides like Crank Mob, Ride Arc, CubCamp, Wolfpack Hustle, Bad Idea Ride or any other MR ride for that matter.  </p>
<p>Just as an update to the BHPD SUV intimidation bit, I talked to the officer&#8217;s watch commander, and his attitude was that we should be happy that one of us didn&#8217;t get cited.  Yes, of course I&#8217;ll file an official complaint, but I doubt any action will be taken afterwards. Complaining about this bullshit on blogs is THE BEST option we have right now, it&#8217;s the first thing anyone should do after being wronged by police.  Get the story out there, get people&#8217;s contact info, and hopefully get a class action lawsuit going at some point in the future.  That&#8217;s what put the LAPD in their place, no?</p>
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		<title>By: frictionshifter</title>
		<link>http://la.metblogs.com/2008/06/06/bike-rants/#comment-49934</link>
		<dc:creator>frictionshifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m doing the River Ride for the second time this year. I was shocked 2 years ago at the total lack of the CM/MR crowd. Maybe its the expensive, maybe its the gawdawful early start time, but people need to know it is a fundraiser for the one organization that has a decent voice for bicyclists in LA County. I&#039;m unsure why the hipster cyclist crowd looks down on this ride. And the spandex thing - wow. I&#039;ve commuted by bike regularly for the past 3 years, doing about 2000 miles a year. For my commute, I wear jeans. But people if you are going to ride 100 miles believe me, you want to wear the spandex/diaper pants. you need that sh*t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing the River Ride for the second time this year. I was shocked 2 years ago at the total lack of the CM/MR crowd. Maybe its the expensive, maybe its the gawdawful early start time, but people need to know it is a fundraiser for the one organization that has a decent voice for bicyclists in LA County. I&#8217;m unsure why the hipster cyclist crowd looks down on this ride. And the spandex thing &#8211; wow. I&#8217;ve commuted by bike regularly for the past 3 years, doing about 2000 miles a year. For my commute, I wear jeans. But people if you are going to ride 100 miles believe me, you want to wear the spandex/diaper pants. you need that sh*t!</p>
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