Comments on: Bikes On The Freeway, Again! http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:51:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bmn100 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-49021 bmn100 Tue, 20 May 2008 04:27:07 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-49021 I don't plan on ever riding MY bike down the freeway, I'm just saying that if there were bikeways around LA, and I could safely bike to work, I would do it in a heartbeat! I know this isn't the case for everyone, ie people with a long commute, people who need to haul kids or work stuff etc, but every day I see hundreds of people sitting in their cars by themselves, commuting to work. But I would think you would appreciate the traffic that would be alieviated from having some cars off the road. I don’t plan on ever riding MY bike down the freeway, I’m just saying that if there were bikeways around LA, and I could safely bike to work, I would do it in a heartbeat! I know this isn’t the case for everyone, ie people with a long commute, people who need to haul kids or work stuff etc, but every day I see hundreds of people sitting in their cars by themselves, commuting to work. But I would think you would appreciate the traffic that would be alieviated from having some cars off the road.

]]> By: laexpat http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48986 laexpat Mon, 19 May 2008 12:30:41 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48986 bmn100: written like a clueless zealot with no idea how folks live who have children to haul around. Ride your bike -- happy it works for you -- just stay the hell off the 405. bmn100: written like a clueless zealot with no idea how folks live who have children to haul around. Ride your bike — happy it works for you — just stay the hell off the 405.

]]> By: bmn100 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48985 bmn100 Mon, 19 May 2008 12:13:03 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48985 Global warming, polution, foreign oil dependency, traffic, and obesity are some of the biggest issues facing our country right now. Biking seems to be a solution that will kill about 5 birds with one stone. I dont understand why so many people keep calling these guys morons, when they are bringing into the light a fantastic solution to such terrible problems. By no means do these guys want to legalize biking on the freeway,the goal is to push for more bikeways around los angeles. Some say that this could be demonstrated in a much safer way. Well if it was, do you think it would have gotten nearly this much attention? and isn't that the entire goal, to raise awareness? Because of this video i plan on writing letters to the local government asking for bikeways around LA. Global warming, polution, foreign oil dependency, traffic, and obesity are some of the biggest issues facing our country right now. Biking seems to be a solution that will kill about 5 birds with one stone. I dont understand why so many people keep calling these guys morons, when they are bringing into the light a fantastic solution to such terrible problems. By no means do these guys want to legalize biking on the freeway,the goal is to push for more bikeways around los angeles. Some say that this could be demonstrated in a much safer way. Well if it was, do you think it would have gotten nearly this much attention? and isn’t that the entire goal, to raise awareness? Because of this video i plan on writing letters to the local government asking for bikeways around LA.

]]> By: jericho1ne http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48767 jericho1ne Wed, 14 May 2008 18:15:00 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48767 "invading a space set aside for the exclusive use of cars" Eeexactly, the last place where drivers can run to and act like they're somehow more grown up or efficient or professional or better off has been violated. I won't even bother to respond to robb0995's comment that "traffic seemed to have picked up speed". You must not be from LA or have never driven on the 405 or 10 between 4 and 7pm on a Friday. To me, this stunt is successful as long as it "wins people over" OR hastens the climax were drivers and non-drivers clash in a bloody civil war. "invading a space set aside for the exclusive use of cars"

Eeexactly, the last place where drivers can run to and act like they’re somehow more grown up or efficient or professional or better off has been violated.

I won’t even bother to respond to robb0995’s comment that "traffic seemed to have picked up speed". You must not be from LA or have never driven on the 405 or 10 between 4 and 7pm on a Friday.

To me, this stunt is successful as long as it "wins people over" OR hastens the climax were drivers and non-drivers clash in a bloody civil war.

]]> By: Lit Blogging 5.5 « Carver’s Dog http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48697 Lit Blogging 5.5 « Carver’s Dog Tue, 13 May 2008 07:24:41 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48697 [...] at BLA, any attempt at intellectual discourse has thus far been nonengaged. I guess stories about asinine “rebel” bicyclists taking to the L.A. freeways in some sort of “daring demonstration showing exactly how inefficient driving a car in Los [...] [...] at BLA, any attempt at intellectual discourse has thus far been nonengaged. I guess stories about asinine “rebel” bicyclists taking to the L.A. freeways in some sort of “daring demonstration showing exactly how inefficient driving a car in Los [...]

]]> By: KTLA picks up the bikes on the freeway story | Los Angeles Metblogs http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48688 KTLA picks up the bikes on the freeway story | Los Angeles Metblogs Tue, 13 May 2008 01:37:35 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48688 [...] Previously: Bikes on the freeway, again! [...] [...] Previously: Bikes on the freeway, again! [...]

]]> By: RumorsDaily http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48675 RumorsDaily Tue, 13 May 2008 00:02:41 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48675 My main issue above was not necessarily that it wasn't safe, it was that bikes were invading a space set aside for the exclusive use of cars (or motor vehicles). Just as we bikers wouldn't be happy with cars driving on bike paths (even if done in a "safe" manner), likewise I think it's reasonable for car drivers not to be happy with bikers riding on their highways. It's simply not a space designed for mutual use, and trying to force the dual use on the space creates danger and, likely, resentment. I'm just guessing about the resent, and Sean Bonner above thinks I'm wrong, so maybe I have to give a little on that point. My main issue above was not necessarily that it wasn’t safe, it was that bikes were invading a space set aside for the exclusive use of cars (or motor vehicles). Just as we bikers wouldn’t be happy with cars driving on bike paths (even if done in a "safe" manner), likewise I think it’s reasonable for car drivers not to be happy with bikers riding on their highways. It’s simply not a space designed for mutual use, and trying to force the dual use on the space creates danger and, likely, resentment.

I’m just guessing about the resent, and Sean Bonner above thinks I’m wrong, so maybe I have to give a little on that point.

]]> By: fiver http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48674 fiver Mon, 12 May 2008 23:56:25 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48674 this social action wasn't really dangerous (except to big oil). As a motorcyclist, its my right to lane-share as long as I go within 10 miles of speed of traffic and don't exceed thew speed limit. What drivers who don't cycle or motorcycle don't take into account is the amount of maneuverable space two wheelers have. In a car, I might feel like I'm right up next to another car in traffic but a bike would see that I have many feet of clearance. The more people who drive cars and bike can help build tolerance. Certainly those bikes were of no harm to the car traffic, which seemed to be going at maybe 10 mphs for those bikes to be passing as they did. Its a great statement. Had the bikes been in the middle lane while traffic was going faster than them, it would have been incredibly dangerous. It was illegal but actually safe. this social action wasn’t really dangerous (except to big oil). As a motorcyclist, its my right to lane-share as long as I go within 10 miles of speed of traffic and don’t exceed thew speed limit. What drivers who don’t cycle or motorcycle don’t take into account is the amount of maneuverable space two wheelers have. In a car, I might feel like I’m right up next to another car in traffic but a bike would see that I have many feet of clearance. The more people who drive cars and bike can help build tolerance. Certainly those bikes were of no harm to the car traffic, which seemed to be going at maybe 10 mphs for those bikes to be passing as they did. Its a great statement. Had the bikes been in the middle lane while traffic was going faster than them, it would have been incredibly dangerous. It was illegal but actually safe.

]]> By: evan http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48673 evan Mon, 12 May 2008 23:39:25 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48673 I'd like to echo what EL CHAVO said above. I’d like to echo what EL CHAVO said above.

]]> By: RumorsDaily http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48672 RumorsDaily Mon, 12 May 2008 23:37:55 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/10/bikes-on-the-freeway-again/#comment-48672 I'd be interested in hearing from at least one motorist who was there on that point. I’d be interested in hearing from at least one motorist who was there on that point.

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