And there is a difference between semantics and deliberately twisting words around to deceive the populace, which should never be encouraged.
Term extensions isn’t a life or death matter, and since its the same people who are trying to deceive the public that would benefit from it, I don’t think this would benefit the public in any way. If its really important, they can try again later, but this time while being more honest.

As for the slavery comparison, you’re right. I would argue it on semantics. Because, as far as I can tell, there would be no need to lie to the public to “free them”.

I could care less about how Rocky and Zuma Dogg feel on the issue – what does this have to do with the issue?

Bottom line is if they want to pass this measure, they should have done so honestly. Otherwise, we’re sending a message to the politicians that people like you are okay with them lying to the public… even when it comes to so called ethics bills.

I look at it this way, if a measure was going to free the slaves, I would support it regardless of semantics. You would argue semantics and keep the slaves enslaved.

plus, the only reason people like the city attorney are against it is because it doesn’t extend his term limits. what does that tell you? and from what i hear, most of these so called self titled “community activists” who are rabble rousing about this semantics issue are the crazy ones.

but all that aside, i just don’t have a problem with semantics. i agree with both goals. i understand the “controversy”. i also understand that the effects of Prop R will be a good thing for the city and its people. and even you don’t argue with that, dave!

Two terms simply isn’t enough time to know what is going on. If you think lobbyists have too much power and influence, it’s because they know the ropes, they can offer information and advice, and green councilmembers can’t argue because they don’t know. The same awful effects are felt in Sacramento everday. Term limits at the state level have led to a more polarized, less educated body of representatives. There are smart, savvy, capable people, sure, but you need time to learn any new job – especially a high profile, high stakes gauntlet like elected office.

Vote for Prop R – because you still retain the ability to vote the bastards out in two terms, or even one, if you so prefer.

Term limits lower your power – Prop R is a small step toward restoring it.